Three unlikely people started a podcast: a systematic innovation expert  with decades of research and countless real-world examples under his belt, an C-Suite psuedo anthropologist who digs into why people and organisations resist change even when it's obvious, and a retired IT guy from Cornwall who once kayaked most of the way around Britain – because why not?

What we're about

We chat about innovation – but not the shiny, buzzword-filled version you see in TED Talks, where everything gets "disrupted" overnight by some magical startup. We're interested in the real, messy side: great ideas that get killed in meetings, smart people overlooking the basics, and why small, nearby changes often work better than huge, flashy ones.

Darrell Mann brings 40+ years of studying how innovation actually happens, spotting patterns in millions of cases and updating how to navigate disruptive change in today's world. Shana Finnegan looks at the human side – why even clever groups dig in their heels against sensible ideas. And Mikey asks the straightforward questions that turn out to be trickier than they look.

What we cover

We explore systems thinking, complexity, why our education systems are struggling, what comedy can teach us about creativity, the ethics of looking back in judgement, leading change like conducting an orchestra, whether democracy still fits the modern world, the role of tough times in creating meaning, and what "meaning" even is when you treat it like a system.

We've had some brilliant guests join us: philosophers, lawyers, comedians, data scientists, authors, adventurers, and even a conductor who's also a soprano and academic.

Why "DangerMouth"?

The best conversations happen out on the edges, where things get uncomfortable. Playing it safe and sticking to conventional wisdom rarely leads to fresh insights. Sometimes you just have to say the thing that makes everyone pause.

Come join us

New episodes drop regularly. Subscribe on your favourite podcast app, or just swing by the site. We'll be here, ready for a proper chat.